Learning to Weep With Those Who Weep (Romans 12:15 and 1 Corinthians 12:26)

Learning to Weep With Those Who Weep (Romans 12:15 and 1 Corinthians 12:26)

Every believer is expected to “weep with those who weep” (Romans 12:15; see also 1 Corinthians 12:26). When we mourn with those who mourn, we should avoid certain things, such as trying to cheer people up, competing with them by sharing our own stories of grief, or being false prophets by telling them things will get better. The sponsored reflection Finding Stability After Trauma also considers the difficulty of accepting help after a serious injury.

If I had to choose one verse to summarize my ministry, it would be:

Ephesians 4:12 [pastors are] to equip the saints for the work of ministry.

We tend to think pastors are the only ones in ministry, but the Bible says pastors are supposed to equip the saints to do the work of the ministry.

In John MacArthur’s sermon, “The Foundation for Fifty-Five Years of Ministry,” he wrote about the need for everyone to minister:

“I understood the church had to be a place of mutual ministry, fellowship, spiritual gifts in one another. We have gifts that we minister to others. I have a spiritual gift for you. My gift is not for me, it’s for you. You have spiritual giftsspeaking gifts, serving gifts…Every one of us fits into the body of Christ in a way that the Spirit of God has designed for us to have a ministry that is critical to the life of the church.

Grace Church has always had that. In the early years, the first article ever written on Grace Church was…titled ‘The Church with 900 Ministers.’ We had 900 people at the time. And what struck him was these were not spectators; these people were really caring for each other. He picked that up on his own.

That article got a lot of traction because people didn’t think of churches in that sense. But we were heavily on a bent on giving instruction on the mutual ministry of God’s people to each other in a church so that we’re not spectators. Things that go on around here, you could never ever imagine that I did them. When I come here, I’m as shocked as you are at everything. Who does all this? This church has always understood fellowship, mutual ministry, caring for each other.”

I have the same desire for Woodland Christian Church. I’m thankful so many serve because each person plays a vital role in the church family. Part of the ministry you should be equipped for is visiting the hurting. I will cover this in two posts. This post covers what we shouldn’t do when weeping with those who are weeping, and the other post, Six Ways to Provide Biblical Comfort for Those Who Mourn, covers what we should do.

We Must All Weep with Those Who Weep

Scripture contains verses for specific people, such as husbands, wives, children, single people, widows, older people, and younger people. Scripture also contains verses for everyone regardless of their season of life. Romans 12 is one of those chapters written to anyone and everyone.

The chapter begins with familiar verses appealing to us to present our bodies as living sacrifices. It is followed by the command not to be conformed to the world but to be transformed by renewing our minds. Then verses 3-8 encourage us to use God’s gifts. Finally, in verses 9-21, Paul has a section titled “Behave like a Christian” or “Marks of the True Christian.” These verses are written to every Christian, and Romans 12:15 says:

Romans 12:15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.

If people have the gift of leadership but not the gift of service, they can’t say, “I’ll be in charge, but don’t expect me to serve.” Or if people have the gift of ministry but not the gift of encouragement, they can’t say, “I’ll minister, but I won’t encourage.” Or if people have the gift of teaching but not the gift of mercy, they can’t say, “I’ll teach, but I won’t be merciful.” While people with the gift of mercy, service, or encouragement might find it easier to weep with those weeping, Romans 12:15 says it is everyone’s responsibility. Similarly:

1 Corinthians 12:26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.

I want to equip us to weep with those weeping and suffer with those suffering.

I Wasn’t Equipped to Weep with Those Who Weep

I wasn’t equipped in this area. I think my first introduction to weeping with those who weep was in 2007; not long after I started pastoring, I went with another pastor to visit a young girl who was dying of a brain tumor. I thought we would visit with her, but she could only get out of bed for a few moments before she had to return. We mainly visited with her father and, I believe, her grandmother, who were understandably devastated by what was happening.

I had no idea what to say, so I’m unsure if I said anything besides introducing myself when I arrived and saying goodbye when we left. I hate to say it, but I thought the pastor with me did a terrible job. He tried to deliver the previous Sunday’s sermon to the father and grandmother, but that didn’t go well. It wasn’t the time or place.

I know I’m not the only one who has wondered what to say or how to act in these situations. Two of my fellow elders permitted me to share that when I was driving to see the family of a boy who drowned and the family of a man dying, they asked how to handle the situation. Over the years, people have told me, “I want to visit so-and-so, but I don’t know what to say,” or “I heard what happened to this person, and I want to say something, but I’m afraid of saying the wrong thing.”

First, Don’t Try to Change the Mood

It makes sense that we should rejoice with those who rejoice. When people are prosperous, we should celebrate with them and be happy for them. We shouldn’t be downers and start complaining or sharing about our problems, ruining the mood. But the part that might not sound like what we would expect is that we are also told to weep with those who are weeping and suffer with those who are suffering…versus helping them feel better. In other words, we might expect the verses to read this way:

  • Romans 12:15 Cheer up those who are weeping.
  • 1 Corinthians 12:26 If one member suffers, encourage him or her.

Instead, we should weep and suffer with them, so we shouldn’t try to change the mood. Consider these verses:

Ecclesiastes 3:1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven

Solomon lists different seasons, and here are two of them…

Ecclesiastes 3:4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance

There are acceptable times and seasons to weep and mourn.

An Entire Book About Weeping

Many books of the Bible are associated with specific topics. For example:

  • Proverbs is a book about wisdom. God has given us an entire book to help us become wise.
  • Job is a book about suffering. God has given us an entire book to understand suffering.
  • Song of Solomon is a book about romance. God has given us an entire book to understand romance.
  • Philippians is a book about joy. God has given us an entire book to hep us be joyful.

And we have a book called Lamentations. Lamenting is synonymous with weeping. In other words, God has also given us an entire book about weeping and lamenting. And many of the Psalms are laments. God wants us to be familiar and comfortable with this topic.

Second, Don’t “Pour Vinegar on Soda”

Elkanah tried to encourage his wife, Hannah. Of course, it has to be a husband trying to fix things for his wife, right? But in the process, he did more harm than good. Three things made Hannah’s life very difficult:

First, her husband, Elkanah, is also married to another woman, Peninnah. Talk to any woman whose husband has a second wife, and she’ll tell you how hard her life is. You may wonder why some men in Scripture took multiple wives. God never condoned this. It is descriptive versus prescriptive. Polygamy portrays the sad reality of ancient cultures.

Luke 7:35 [Jesus said], “Wisdom is justified by all her children.”

Justified means declared right. The wisdom of decisions is justified or shown to be right by the children or by what’s produced from the decision. Polygamist marriages were always characterized by turmoil and strife instead of peace and harmony, showing foolishness versus wisdom.

Second, Hannah’s life is difficult because her husband’s other wife, Peninnah, is cruel to her.

Third, Peninnah could have children, but Hannah could not. It is bad enough not to be able to have children, but how much worse is it when your husband’s other wife can?

1 Samuel 1:4 On the day when Elkanah sacrificed, he would give portions to Peninnah his wife and to all her sons and daughters. 5 But to Hannah he gave a double portion, because he loved her, though the Lord had closed her womb.

While we are on the subject of weeping and suffering, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that we are looking at one of the most common causes of grief, especially for women: not being able to have children. I know this can be a difficult trial for women in the church: They see other women having children, and they see the church celebrating those women having children. But when they have trouble having a child, I can only imagine how difficult that must be.

1 Samuel 1:6 And her rival used to provoke her grievously to irritate her, because the Lord had closed her womb. 7 So it went on year by year. As often as she went up to the house of the Lord, she used to provoke her. Therefore Hannah wept and would not eat.

We’re told twice that Peninnah provoked Hannah to emphasize how bad it was.

Elkanah’s Insensitivity to His Wife, Hannah

Here’s how Elkanah responds to Hannah’s suffering:

1 Samuel 1:8 And Elkanah, her husband, said to her, “Hannah, why do you weep? And why do you not eat? And why is your heart sad? Am I not more to you than ten sons?”

Do you think Elkanah’s encouragement made Hannah feel better? Brothers, I’m not the most sensitive husband in the world, but can we agree that we shouldn’t respond like this when our wives are upset. Elkanah made two mistakes.

First, he asked insensitive questions: “Why do you weep, and why do you not eat?” There are only two possible reasons he asked this, and both are bad. First, he didn’t know, which makes him the most oblivious husband in human history. The other possibility, which is more likely and even worse, is that he did know, which gave the impression that Hannah should not be upset. He looks like the husband whose wife is sobbing and says, “What’s wrong with you?”

Second, Elkanah made the king of all prideful statements: “Is not being married to me better than all the children you could have?” He rebuked Hannah for crying and then said, “Why are you upset about not having any children when you get to be married to me?”

What does it look like when we do this when people are suffering?

  • We offer all the reasons they should be happy
  • We point out all the blessings in their lives
  • We remind them how good they still have it
  • Maybe we even tell them how much better they have it than others
  • If we want to be super insensitive, we can even tell them how much better their lives are than ours. That always makes people feel better to hear that: “At least you don’t have it as bad as me!”

This verse has incredible application for ministering to hurting people:

Proverbs 25:20 Whoever sings songs to a heavy heart is like one who takes off a garment on a cold day, and like vinegar on soda.

Trying to cheer people up when they’re suffering is like taking their coat when it’s cold or pouring vinegar on their soda.

Third, Don’t Try to Compete

I don’t know why we are wired like this. Whenever someone is suffering, our minds race to come up with a situation from our own lives that is closest to, and even worse than, the problem they are experiencing. They are hurting, so we want to tell them about times we were hurting, “Oh yeah, oh yeah…” They lost someone, so we want to tell them about when we lost someone, “You think your loss is bad!”

And here’s the truth: It’s not to say we have never been hurt or lost anyone. More than likely, we have. Maybe we have even been hurt more than they or lost more people than them. However, in such situations, we must prioritize the person in need.

Fourth, Don’t Be a False Prophet

The other thing we seem wired to do is to try to explain. We must tell people why this is happening and what God is doing…even though we have no idea. Most of the time, we don’t know what God is doing or why He is doing it. Walking by faith and trusting the Lord means we trust the Lord even when we don’t understand. If we did understand, we wouldn’t have to walk by faith or trust the Lord. And if there’s any time it’s particularly difficult to trust the Lord, it’s during trials.

If we say God is or isn’t doing something, and we are wrong, that makes us false prophets. Maybe you’re reading this and thinking, “Is it really that bad to say what God is doing when people are suffering?” It is, and I don’t believe this because I developed it myself. I think this because we have individuals in Scripture who did precisely this – they said what God was doing when it wasn’t what He was doing – and He was angry with them.

Learning from Job’s Friends

I’m talking about Job’s friends. He was suffering, and they were convinced they knew why. They said it was because Job was a horrible sinner:

Job 4:7 “[What] innocent ]person] ever perished? Or where were the upright cut off?

In other words, innocent, upright people don’t suffer, so you must be terrible to suffer so much!

Job 8:20 “Behold, God will not reject a blameless man, nor take the hand of evildoers.

In other words, God is good to blameless people and bad to evildoers…so you musy be really bad!

Job 36:6 [God] does not keep the wicked alive, but gives the afflicted their right. 7 He does not withdraw his eyes from the righteous, but with kings on the throne he sets them forever, and they are exalted.

In other words, God kills the wicked, extends the lives of the righteous, and gives them good leaders.

Were Job’s friends speaking well or poorly of God? They were speaking well of God! So, of course, God was pleased with them, right? They go back and forth with Job throughout the book and then listen to the very end:

Job 42:7 The Lord said to Eliphaz…“MY ANGER BURNS AGAINST YOU AND AGAINST YOUR TWO FRIENDS, FOR YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN OF ME WHAT IS RIGHT, as my servant Job has. 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and offer up a burnt offering for yourselves…For YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN OF ME WHAT IS RIGHT, as my servant Job has.”

God is repetitive for a reason. Twice, He said He was angry with them because they spoke wrongly of Him. In particular, they spoke wrongly about why Job was suffering…even though they sounded like they were speaking well of God. So, when people are suffering, don’t tell them what God is doing unless we know for sure…and we probably don’t.

Many of the clichés and platitudes we offer can also make us false prophets:

  • We say, “Things can’t get any worse” or “Things won’t get any worse.” Things can probably get much worse, so how do we know they won’t?
  • Similarly, we say, “Things will get better.” How do we know they will get better? Maybe they will get worse.

People’s Responses When My Brother Passed Away

When my brother passed away unexpectedly from a drug overdose in my early twenties, there was no shortage of people, both believers and unbelievers, who seemed to be comfortable telling me why he died. Keep in mind that none of these people knew him or knew anything about him. I know everyone meant well, but I remember finding only one person’s sentiments comforting. I received a letter from a pastor’s daughter, and it made three points:

  1. She said she was very sorry about what happened, and that’s a pretty good thing to say to people.
  2. She said the opposite of everyone else: she didn’t know why this happened. That was refreshing because I doubted everyone knew why this happened.
  3. I wasn’t a Christian then, so I didn’t understand God’s sovereignty, but she told me that God was in control, which greatly encouraged me. I’m not sure we should always say this to people because it could sound cliché or like we are preaching to them, but it encouraged me.

If people ask you why something happened, you can say, “I’m sorry. I don’t know, but I can tell you that God is in control.”

Why We Can Weep with Hope

1 Thessalonians 4:13 We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you MAY NOT GRIEVE AS OTHERS DO WHO HAVE NO HOPE.

So, Paul said to grieve or weep, unlike those without hope. Who grieves without hope? Unbelievers! Paul used the same language to describe unbelievers elsewhere:

Ephesians 2:12 You were separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, HAVING NO HOPE AND WITHOUT GOD in the world.

So when Paul says not to grieve without hope, he’s saying not to grieve like unbelievers. Just think about why this is the case: What hope do unbelievers have when they grieve or weep? None. When they lose a loved one, they believe they’ll never see them again, and there is no hope for them. But as believers, we have the blessed hope:

Titus 2:13 [We are] waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

As believers we have the hope of seeing Christ.

Job Wept with Hope

Job had this hope during his weeping. He said:

Job 19:25 For I know that my Redeemer lives, And He shall stand at last on the earth

Job didn’t see his Redeemer as some force or concept. He saw Him as a Person who would stand victoriously on the earth at the end of time. This thought gave him hope and comfort.

Job 19:26 And after my skin is destroyed, this I know, That in my flesh I shall see God

Job felt like God hid Himself from him, just like we might be tempted to feel when we are grieving.

Job said his skin would be destroyed. What did his skin look like?

Job 2:7 Satan…struck Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.

But he also said, “In my flesh, I shall see God.” So which is it…is his skin destroyed, or does he see God in his flesh? It’s both! He expected his present, earthly body to be destroyed, but he expected to receive a new, glorified body.

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.

Notice he said, “I shall see God.” He knew he would see God in this glorified body. In the next verse, we see what this thought produced in him:

Job 19:27b How my heart yearns within me!

This reality seemed to be almost more than he could handle. Job probably experienced more weeping and suffering than anyone in history, but he could have great hope because he knew he would see his Redeemer. This is the hope we have, too.

2 Responses

  1. Thank you for this teaching. I found it very helpful. I do have a few questions;
    1. Are we to constantly be vulnerable with everyone who is weeping?
    2. How can I stop trying to control and stop my emotions?
    3. I thought encouragement was to try and uplift others.
    4. Why do I fight being this vulnerable so much? unwilling to trust that if I cry with others that it wont lead me to depression and feeling hopeless? The Lord brought me out of this and I don’t want to go back there.

    Thank you,
    Chrystal

    1. Hello Chrystal,
      You’re welcome. Thanks for letting me know. I’m blessed the teaching ministered to you. Here are the answers to your questions…

      1. Are we to constantly be vulnerable with everyone who is weeping?

      I’m sorry, but I don’t know exactly what you mean by being vulnerable. If you mean listening well and striving to understand and sympathize, then yes. But if you mean sharing our own griefs and hurts, no, that’s not necessary, and I generally discourage it, because it could almost seem like we’re competing with them and trying to act like we’re hurting too.

      2. How can I stop trying to control and stop my emotions?

      Self-control is one of the fruit of the Spirit and grows through three ways, to of which are within our control. First, trials mature us, but we don’t have any control over them. We only have control over how we respond to them. Second, maturity comes from reading God’s Word (John 17:17); therefore, spend time at the Word to grow and self-control. Third, pray for more self-control.

      3. I thought encouragement was to try and uplift others.

      Yes, encouragement should lift up others, but 1 Thessalonians 4:13 says we can grieve, we just shouldn’t grieve as those who have no hope. Also, we are told to weep with those who weep, versus encourage or build up those who are weeping. That can quickly turn into discouraging others versus encouraging them. Consider this verse I taught on in the message:

      Proverbs 25:20 Whoever sings songs to a heavy heart is like one who takes off a garment on a cold day, and like vinegar on soda.

      Trying to cheer people up when they’re suffering is like taking their coat when it’s cold or pouring vinegar on their soda.

      4. Why do I fight being this vulnerable so much? unwilling to trust that if I cry with others that it wont lead me to depression and feeling hopeless? The Lord brought me out of this and I don’t want to go back there.

      I think vulnerability is hard for most of us. The burden we end up feeling when sympathizing with others does create some sadness because we’re striving to put ourselves in the place of the person suffering; however, over time there is great benefit. We are better able to recognize our blessings and become more like Christ, who sympathized with us.

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